Covid-19

November 1, 2023

To: All Participants

From: Mike Vajda (Executive Director)

As you know, COVID-19 is still a concern, but we’re here to ensure you have an amazing experience while keeping your health in mind.

While participating in any of our programs or events, we want to remind you that COVID-19 is highly contagious and mainly spreads through person-to-person contact. We’ve got some safety measures in place, but it’s important to note that we can’t guarantee complete protection against the virus.

To ensure the safety of everyone involved, we highly encourage all participants, volunteers, partners, and attendees to get vaccinated with at least two doses before joining any of our services or events. This way, we can create a safer environment for everyone involved.

As you go through your orientation package, we request that you voluntarily share your current vaccine status with us. We understand that this is a personal decision, but it helps us ensure the safety and well-being of everyone in our community.

While vaccines play a crucial role in preventing the spread of COVID-19, we also want to remind you of some simple yet effective preventive measures. Remember to wear a mask, wash your hands frequently, and practice social distancing whenever possible. These steps go a long way in protecting yourself and those around you.

In addition, if you have recently been in contact with someone who has tested positive for COVID-19 or are experiencing flu-like symptoms, please refrain from coming to QVSS until it’s safe for everyone.

Feel free to reach out if you have any questions or concerns about our COVID-19 protocols or vaccination requirements. We’re here to help!

May 5, 2023

To: All Participants

From: Mike Vajda (Executive Director)

Please contact the agency for the most recent updates and protocols. Mike Vajda or Shannon Arbic.

Thanks, Mike

July 5, 2022

Memo: To all participants

From: Mike Vajda (Executive Director)

We are hoping you have been enjoying our Free Summer Activities. We are fortunate to be able to provide this service to you, thanks to the Harry E. Foster Foundation. Quinte Vitality and Social Support feel lucky to have had so much support from everyone throughout the pandemic. To the Ministry, the foundations who support our endeavors, and to the participants, families, supported living homes, family homes, group homes, sister agencies and more, we thank you for your patience and understanding as we have navigated through these unprecedented times.

It is our hope, which is to say, it is QVSS’s plan, to return “as normal” in September. Most regular scheduled services prior to the onset of COVID-19 may become available to you. We will provide these services to you thanks to the United Way of Quinte if Public Health and the Ministry of Health say it is safe to do so. We will follow their instructions to provide you with a safe and healthy environment to enjoy your chosen activities.

Some more good news! We are revamping the Red’s Place Diner menu and we are excited to share with you all the changes coming in the fall.

Just a friendly reminder that QVSS is closing between July 18- July 29th and reopening on August 2nd. We apologize for the difficulty closing may cause you during this time, and understand it is far from convenient. But we hope you understand that we are trying to catch up on our mandatory training such as First Aid & CPR, Crisis Intervention Training, and Health & Safety training since they were unavailable during COVID-19. You see, QVSS Staff, Management, and the Executive Board of Directors have worked very hard and continue to be remarkably busy as we provide you with up-to-date trained staff, to provide you with utmost safety and care, while you enjoy your programs and services, and it is our pleasure.

Thank you and we will talk soon!

Mike Vajda (Executive Director)

April 14,2022

To: All participants

From: Mike Vajda (Executive Director)

Hello everyone. We must share valuable information regarding QVSS and how we are progressing as we manage our services through the pandemic. As you know, the community is reopening, increasing the number of sick people everywhere.

Although these changes are happening, QVSS must adhere to all Ministry of Health and Public Health Guidelines. We are still following the same protocols screening, wearing masks, hand sanitizing, disinfecting the building, operating cohorts with tables six feet apart and keeping people as safe as possible. At present, we are not providing our community participation activities. QVSS staff are Rapid Testing twice a week, and we offer to test participants at their request or agreement.

Some people who attend QVSS have compromised health concerns that contracting the virus could make them sick, so we need to be extra diligent. QVSS is trying very hard to meet everyone’s needs while at the agency during these uncertain times. We ask that you get hold of QVSS and ask for Angie at 613-968-5211 if you or anyone in your household does not feel well. Please do not come to work. QVSS believes that everyone should be able to make their own life choices, but please remember that your choices can affect others while attending our program.

Hopefully, as we manage our way through this sixth wave, the following memo you read will show how our dedication to keeping you all as safe as possible has paid off, and we can gradually return to some normalcy. Would that not be great? Fingers crossed!

Until next time, keep safe and stay healthy.

Sincerely,

Mike Vajda

Executive Director

March 23, 2022

To: All participants

From: Mike Vajda (Executive Director)

Hello everyone. Can you believe it is finally springtime? Things will blossom and bloom very soon, and so will QVSS.

I have some good news to tell all of you! QVSS is beginning to return to “normal,” although this will happen over time. While the government announced changes to masking requirements for most public settings beginning March 21, 2022; however, we continue to require masking or face covering requirements for health care and congregate settings. 

Maintaining masking requirements provides additional protection in places where people are often in close contact and/or required to be in-person and allows for sustained protection for vulnerable populations. 

Although the province is lifting restrictions, QVSS will remain diligent with our enhanced cleaning, sanitization, and screening. Staff are also rapid testing twice a week. Your health and safety remain our number one priority. As the province continues to open slowly, so will QVSS.

I am sure you are all very anxious to know when you may return and that you would like some immediate answers, but the truth is, it is going to be a process, and presently I cannot give you exact times and dates. Just know that we have begun making phone calls to all of you to find out if you are interested in returning to QVSS, and we are busy preparing our recreational schedules, which look exciting, I might add.

We are heading in a positive direction, and I know this has not been easy for some! Please do not hesitate to call if you find your situation has changed and you may require emergency services of any kind. We are here for you! Call 613-968-5211 if you have any questions or concerns.

Please be advised that we will notify you of your return date.

Best Wishes,

Mike Vajda

Executive Director

March 7, 2022

To: All participants

From: Mike Vajda (Executive Director)

Hello everyone:

I have some exciting news I wanted to share with all of you! QVSS has purchased several HEPA (high-efficiency particulate air) filters to absorb harmful particles and turn them into clean air we breathe for when you return to the agency. It will be beneficial to everyone. AND… it seems as though the COVID-19 Omicron variant wave of infection is getting less, and Ontario is beginning the “Exit Steps” process from the government’s “Roadmap to Reopen” guidelines. That means that the government works with all organizations and agencies, the Ministry of Health and the Chief Medical Officer of Health, planning for your safe return over the next several weeks. It will take time. I understand you are eager. So are we. Hang in there! We are getting so close.  In the meantime, if you have not received your vaccinations yet, please consider getting them. Current evidence shows that a third dose restores protection from the Omicron infection 50 to 70%.  Please notify QVSS at 613-968-5211 if your present situation has changed and you need further
assistance.

Warm regards,
Mike Vajda (Executive Director)

Memorandum

Date: January 26, 2022

To: All participants

From: Mike Vajda (Executive Director)

Regarding: Ease public health measures, starting on January 31, 2022. Step 2

Hello everyone. I hope this memo finds you well and staying warm. QVSS wants to keep you up-to-date on some developing situations, some good news! The Ontario government announced we will begin to increase capacity limits, starting January 31, as part of a three-step plan to ease COVID-19 restrictions in the province. That means we look forward to seeing those of you who had to enjoy our programs at home since December 31, 2021. It may take a while before we can “go back to normal,” but we are getting closer.

As well, I would like you to know that the following dates we can look forward to are February 21 and then March 14, where Ontario will (hopefully) lift all capacity limits in indoor public settings. However, proof of vaccination will still be in effect. Unfortunately, a date for lifting Ontario’s proof of vaccination system, and mask mandate was not announced. So, for the time being, we will continue to require you to wear a mask and be vaccinated.

Although the province is lifting restrictions, QVSS will remain diligent with our enhanced cleaning, sanitization and screening. Your health and safety remain our number one priority. As the province continues to open slowly, so will QVSS.

Please be advised that we will notify you of your return date. If you require essential service during this time, please get in touch with QVSS at (613)968-5211 to discuss how we might be able to help.

In the meantime, we hope you have been enjoying our online programs, telephone calls, QVSS Facebook and our website to help pass the time until we can all be together again. If you have any great ideas about how we can make this time better for you or have concerns about your present situation where you feel you may need emergency day services, please call us.

Things are improving folks, and we are heading in a positive direction. Stay safe and healthy!

Sincerely, Mike Vajda

Executive Director

December 31, 2021

 QVSS will be open on January 3, 2022

We have always prioritized the safety of everyone at QVSS, and in these uncertain times, this is no different. That’s why we are practicing and enforcing best practices and enhanced cleaning measures throughout this next wave to try to remain open.

As you know, safety recommendations, including those for the people we support, and staff can and will likely change in accordance with the local health unit and our provincial recommendations. You can count on us to keep you updated with any needed changes to our programs and services. We will share this information with you on our website qvss.on.ca and our Facebook page.

We encourage you to stay safe. This includes many of the things you have been practicing during the pandemic. We can only remain open if we all do our best to protect each other and make wise choices. We understand how important it is to you and your family that we try to remain open, so we need everyone to do their part and look forward to serving you during these uncertain times. 

If you feel that you want to remain home until things start getting better, we understand this, and we will hold your spot until then. We ask that you connect with us to discuss a plan that works best for you. If you choose to remain home, you can continue to connect with us virtually online via our website and social media channels. This is where you’ll find any updates on how we are managing the safety of you and our staff. We’ll also share tips on how to continue to stay healthy and well and our usual fun activities.

What to expect from QVSS;

Unfortunately, there is no telling when things will be “back to normal” in any sense. Rest assured that we’re doing our best to keep you informed and taking every precaution to help flatten the curve. This means support will be somewhat selective and limited during this time.

All staff will be rapid testing twice a week, and we will be asking all program participants if they will voluntarily rapid test once a week.

If you feel unwell, please do not come to the program because you will not be admitted into the building. Even if it is only a cold, you will not be able to attend. Our screeners will be enforcing all safety protocols.

We are carefully monitoring the situation (just like you) and, at this moment, cannot provide an estimated time of returning to our regular programs and services. The most important thing is to make sure the full opening in the future happens in a safe environment. We’re all in this together, learning together, and adapting together.

If you have specific questions not addressed here or on our website, reach out to us. We are available to answer your questions and respond to any concerns, though do keep in mind, the response time might be a little longer than what you’re used to.

We’re working diligently to adapt to new circumstances while trying to remain open for you while ensuring everyone’s safety. We’re grateful to you, your ongoing support, and that you’re doing your part to flatten the curve.

QVSS

July 7, 2021

Memorandum

Date: July 7, 2021

To: All participants

From: Mike Vajda (Executive Director)

Regarding: Improvement in Numbers and QVSS Vaccination Statistics

Hello everyone. I hope this memo finds you well and enjoying your summer. As the province continues to open slowly, so will QVSS. Although, we cannot tell you when things will resume to what they were yet. We are taking a slow and safe approach.

Since the government has lifted the “stay at home” order, we will follow the Hastings and Prince Edward County Health Units recommendations. For some of you, it may mean you are returning to QVSS for modified programs and services. However, the number of people we can have in each cohort will remain the Ministry’s decision based on public health unit’s recomendations.

I thought you would be pleased to hear that 100% of the staff are vaccinated,100% of the people currently attending QVSS services have received their first vaccine, and 52% of the people attending QVSS have received their second vaccine.

If you require assistance in getting your first or second COVID-19 vaccine or require essential service during this time, please get in touch with QVSS at (613)968-5211 to discuss how we might be able to help.

In the meantime, we hope you have been enjoying our online programs, telephone calls, QVSS Facebook and our website to help pass the time until we can all be together again. If you have any great ideas about how we can make this time better for you or have concerns about your present situation where you feel you may need emergency day services, please call us.

Please remember that QVSS will be closed for summer shut down from July 19 to August 2, resuming August 3

Things are improving, folks, and we are heading in a positive direction. Stay safe and healthy!

Mike Vajda (Executive Director)

May 19, 2021

Hello everyone. I hope you have been outside enjoying the warmer weather, staying safe and socially distancing yourselves since we want you to have fun but remain healthy.

I wanted to check in with you all to let you know that QVSS is preparing for the day we can be together again, and although the government has extended the lockdown until June 2, 2021, we refuse to get too discouraged. Canada is working very hard for us, so we need to hang in there a little bit longer.

The good news is that more and more Canadians are receiving their vaccines to protect themselves from the COVID-19 virus. The more people who get vaccinated, the quicker we can celebrate together. That will be a great day!

In the meantime, if you are struggling or need our assistance, please call us at 613-968-5211.

Thank you all for being patient. We appreciate all your hard work!

Just a friendly reminder, please notify us immediately if the person attending QVSS in your household receives the vaccine or you have any questions. Person to contact: Angie Walsh (613)968-5211 or angie@qvss.on.ca

Sincerely,

Mike Vajda (Executive Director)

February 10, 2021

Hello friends, I hope you have been staying warm and comfortable during these past weeks, and we wanted to see how everyone is doing?

We also wanted to let you know that since the province has lifted the “stay at home” order in our area and we will be returning to the colour zone for our capacity limit. The Ministry has general guidelines we must follow, and these are coordinated with the Hastings Prince Edward County Health Unit active case numbers. Their website is  https://hpepublichealth.ca/covid-19-cases/ .

QVSS CohortMCSS Permitted Numbers
Maximum CapacityGreenZoneYellowZoneOrangeZoneRedZone
Cohort 1101050
Cohort 2101050
Cohort 3 (smaller area)5540
Games Room6650

For some of you, it may mean you are returning to QVSS for modified programs and services. However, the number of people we can have in each cohort will remain as stated in the chart above.

Please be advised that we will notify you of the date you can return. This will most likely be coordinated with the vaccine rollout.

If you require needed or essential service during this time, please contact QVSS at (613)968-5211 to discuss how we might be able to help.

In the meantime, we hope you have been enjoying our online programs, telephone calls, QVSS Facebook and our website to help pass the time until we can all be together again. If you have any great ideas, you would like to share with us how we can make this time better for you, or if you have concerns about your present situation where you feel you may need emergency day services, please call us.

Stay safe and healthy!

Mike Vajda (Executive Director)

Jan 28

QVSS expects the stay-at-home order to expire on February 9, 2021

January 28, 2021

Hello everyone, I hope you are well and keeping yourselves active and busy. It has been a few weeks, and we wanted to check-in to say that we are thinking about you, and just because COVID-19 has changed things, we have not forgotten you!

COVID-19 is new to everyone, and QVSS is learning along the way too! We want to be sure to help you in every way we can during these unique times! It can sometimes be unclear with all the different words we need to remember and follow, like shutdowns, lockdowns, and stay at home orders! Then just as you start getting used to it, things change again.

It seems one day you can do one thing, and the next day you can not. Some of you who are in essential need have been coming to QVSS. As this pandemic heightens, so do the restrictions. Although we are doing relatively well in Hasting and Prince Edward, there are still some “hot spots” in Ontario. We may have to ask some of you to please stay at home until a specific date since we must follow strict guidelines for everyone to remain safe and healthy. Although we may give you a date to return, please wait for us to call you to confirm since your return date may change. If you require essential service during this time, please contact QVSS at (613)968-5211 to discuss how we might be able to help.

In the meantime, we hope you have been enjoying our online programs, telephone calls, QVSS Facebook and our website to help pass the time until we can all be together again. If you have any great ideas you would like to share with us how we can make this time better for you, or if you have concerns about your present situation where you feel you may need emergency day services please call us at 613-968-5211.

Stay safe and healthy!

Dec 28

Province-wide Shutdown

As COVID-19 cases continue to rise at an alarming rate, a province-wide shutdown is in effect as of Saturday, December 26, 2020, at 12:01 a.m. It will be in effect for all of Ontario until Saturday, January 9, 2021. Public health unit regions in Southern Ontario will remain shutdown until Saturday, January 23, 2021.

The purpose of the shutdown is to help:

  • stop the spread of COVID-19 in communities
  • save lives
  • preserve health system capacity
  • protect vulnerable populations and those who care for them

This decision was made in consultation with the Chief Medical Officer of Health and other health experts.

What does this mean for QVSS?

The COVID-19 Response Framework (colour-coded zones) is paused. Instead, we must follow temporary restrictions and public health and workplace safety measures.

Anyone who is receiving inbuilding services is suspended until January 23rd. You should stay at home as much as possible

QVSS building will only be open for essential individuals for those who are absolutely necessary; extremely important, they have a day program. If you would like to be considered for this, please complete the request for essential services.

We are offering all of our online/virtual and telephone services until the province opens up, hopefully on January 23.

As we all try to navigate this pandemic safely, QVSS is doing its best to provide you with the safest possible day program. With the provincial shutdown, we must only provide services to those individuals who are deemed as essential.

We are looking at only serving individuals (inbuilding)whom it is absolutely necessary; extremely important that they need a place to go during the day.

To request inbuilding services please fill out the Request for Essential Services

Nov 25

QVSS New Enhanced Covid-19 Protocols

Please be advised of these enhanced Covid-19 protocols as we continue to see higher numbers in our area during this second wave.

QVSS endeavor is to ensure the health and safety of everyone at the agency.  Due to the increase of cases provincially and locally, we are enhancing our COVID-19 protection measures.  Your needs are foremost in all our considerations while we strive to keep you safe as the COVID-19 numbers rise.

These measures will be in effect until the local and provincial numbers of COVID-19 start to decrease.

We ask that you stay home if you are feeling sick for any reason. If you come to QVSS not feeling well anyway, and the staff notices, we will have you go home to stay home until you feel better.

Please help QVSS remain open by remaining home if you are not feeling well.

The following measures will be in effect immediately!

  • If you have been in contact with someone who is testing for COVID-19, YOU need to stay home until THEY test NEGATIVE.

  • If you are at QVSS showing signs or symptoms, you will be removed from the program area to an isolation room and then sent home. QVSS will have the entire program area sanitized.

  • You MUST remain home until you are free from symptoms for 48 hours.

  • If someone in the building has tested positive for COVID-19, stay home for the entire 14 days. To ensure no other people are infected, QVSS will lock-down for two weeks to confirm no other cases develop. The agency will be sanitized.

We will go back to enhanced online services!

Thank you for your ongoing understanding and cooperation.

The Staff and Management of QVSS.

Sept 28

COVID-19 Update from QVSS

To all QVSS participants:

As Executive Director, I am your biggest supporter! I want you to know Quinte Vitality and Social Supports have not forgotten you! We, too, are anxious for things to return to normal.

However, as employers, we are responsible for protecting our employees and participants attending the programs we offer here at QVSS. Unfortunately, the COVID-19 threat will remain in the environment and continue to be a significant health threat until there is a vaccine, until effective treatments are broadly available or, the population at large acquires protective immunity.

Our concern is the health and safety of the people receiving services and the staff in the middle of this global pandemic. There is a risk of increased transmission or outbreaks as restrictions ease, and more people re-enter public spaces.

As things slowly progress at QVSS and the number of people increases, we will contact you. However, keep in mind that although we are moving forward, if the population numbers continue to increase with COVID-19, we may close again.

The people with first consideration will be people most in need, so if you feel your circumstances have changed where you think you need supports, please call us.

In the meantime, please continue to enjoy QVSS online services, phone calls, and if you feel there are other services you think we could provide, please call us at 613-968-5211, or private message us on Facebook.

Thank you! Stay safe! We will keep in touch!

Mike Vajda

July 17

COVID-19 Update from QVSS

July 17, 2020

To all QVSS participants:

Although Ontario is beginning stage three and reopening businesses, services and public space in our local area, QVSS WILL NOT be returning to regular programs and services at this time. Things will remain very different at QVSS while this pandemic continues. Even the programs and services we are currently operating in building and online are very different from what we usually offer.

While we were closed, we developed a re-opening plan, and Its main goal is to protect the people receiving services and the staff. The health and safety of the people we support is a top concern amid the global COVID-19 pandemic. Also, under the Occupational Health and Safety Act (OHSA), we have the responsibility to protect our employees. The COVID-19 threat will remain in the environment and will continue to be a significant health threat until a vaccine and/or effective treatments are broadly available, or the population at large acquires protective immunity.

Our re-opening plans take many things into account, including your needs for day supports and the overall safety of all. The primary strategy of our inbuilding program is only to support the most in need while keeping attendance to a minimum. Public Health has advocated that social distancing is a significant part of curbing the transmission of COVID-19. Currently, while there is a downward trend happening with COVID-19, everyone has been advised of the risk of increased transmission or outbreaks as restrictions are eased, and more people re-enter public spaces.

QVSS has identified a principal hazard of not being able to control the transmission of the virus in our building is not being able to provide social distancing and cross-contamination through the touching of other personal items during program hours. So, we know keeping numbers as low as we can at QVSS is our best chance of you not catching or spreading the virus.  Also, by providing individualized program spaces and personalized supplies are a crucial component of the plan.

If things continue to slowly improve throughout the province and locally, and we safely progress at QVSS, then we can start to increase the number of people, that is when we will contact you.  However, keep in mind that although things may appear to be improving, if the population numbers rise with COVID-19, we may close again. We encourage you always to have a back-up plan in case there is sudden or immediate closure.

 

We are currently serving a small number of people in the building at this time. If you feel your circumstances have changed where you feel you need supports, please call us to discuss this.

In the meantime, please continue to enjoy QVSS online services, phone calls, and if you feel there are other services you feel we could provide, please call us 613-968-5211, or private message us on Facebook.

Thank you! Stay safe! We will keep in touch

June 29

COVID-19 Update from QVSS

June 29, 2020

To all Program Participants

QVSS will tentatively begin Phase 1 of our reopening plan on July 2, 2020. Our number-one priority is to protect the people we support and the staff that provides the supports. In order to do so, the plan will require participants and staff to follow strict health protocols to ensure the safety of the participants, staff, and others.

Our day supports “Care Plan” sets out strict rules that must be followed to prevent the spread of COVID-19. We must remain diligent in helping stop the spread of the virus, and we must be aware that there is still a public health risk.

Although QVSS is opening its doors, it does not mean everyone comes back to our inbuilding activities, and everything is like it was. Unfortunately, at this stage, it would not be safe to do that. What is going to happen is as the province continues to put into action its Framework for Reopening the Province, day support centres across Ontario will be able to reopen with strict safety and operational requirements in place.

To begin, QVSS is required to provide essential services to the people most in need while minimizing the risk of catching and spreading Covid-19 among staff and people attending the program. So, we will be contacting everyone to address your immediate and future program needs. Our plan includes providing supports to people most in need and expanding our services as we feel safe and comfortable. We hope that you understand this and know that keeping you and staff safe is our number one goal.

If you feel your son or daughter is in dire need of day supports, please contact Linda at linda@qvss.on.ca or (613)847-1462

If you do not require emergency care and are okay for now, please continue enjoying our online programs and services.

Stay safe! Stay healthy! We’re going to get through this together!

Mike Vajda
Executive Director

March 18

COVID-19 Update from QVSS

With the continued news and growing concerns around novel coronavirus (COVID-19), QVSS wants to provide you with an update on our commitment to you during this important time.

Although our building is presently closed the Board/Managers and Staff remain available to support you and will continue to respond to your needs. If you are in need of our assistance please contact Mike Vajda (613)-849-7456 mike@qvss.on.ca or Linda Goldrick (613)847-1462 linda@qvss.on.ca.

The 2019 Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19)

Learn how the Ministry of Health is helping to keep Ontarians safe during the 2019 Novel Coronavirus outbreak. Find out how to protect yourself and how to recognize symptoms.

https://www.ontario.ca/page/2019-novel-coronavirus

March 16

Important Notice Regarding QVSS Operations

PROGRAMMING CHANGES – QVSS will close its day programs as of the end of the day (March 16, 2020) until further notice.

We are committed to maintaining the safety of our agency and the individuals we support. 

As much as the internal and external programs promote our mission of community inclusion, safety and responsibility are the overriding factors to decision making. We are suspending all programs and services until further notice. This includes; All internal programs at QVSS and all external programs like; Bowling, The Wellness Centre, meet you at the library, shopping, let’s get physical and Rally One. 

We thank you for your cooperation and dedication to the people we support.

Should you have any questions or concerns, please contact Mike Vajda(613)-849-7456  mike@qvss.on.ca or Linda Goldrick. (613)847-1462 linda@qvss.on.ca.

March 12

COVID-19 Update from QVSS

QVSS will remain open; however, we are suspending all out of building programs.

As much as the external programs promote our mission of community inclusion, safety and responsibility are the overriding factors to decision making. We are suspending all out of building programs until further notice. This includes; Bowling, The Wellness Centre, meet you at the library, shopping, let’s get physical and Rally One. 

We have also instituted several safety measures in the building. We ask you to sanitize your hand before entering the building. All victors must check-in before entering the building. Anyone exhibiting a persistent cough, fever or shortness of breath will be asked to seek medical attention. 

We thank you for your cooperation and dedication to the people we support.
Should you have any questions or concerns, please contact Mike Vajda or Linda Goldrick.